Our son, Alex, killed his biggest deer ever. He killed this deer on November 22, 2009, it is a 18 pointer. He came out of a thicket across a valley and stopped at forty yards. After he shot it ran about fifty yards and fell down. It had an antler coming ouy right by its eye. It's weight feild dressed 185 pounds. I've attached a picture of it mounted too - we were able to get it mounted for him as a Christmas surprise.